[eat rocks]

Yo, seriously, what the ____ happened to the boulder yesterday? How can all the holds be stripped off the entire inside of the boulder with no warning? I need an answer before i publish any kind of discertation.

[richeyks]

i haven't been able to make it out for a week, so which boulder are you talking about and which side? curious so i don't go hoping to find a favorite problem and it be missing.
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[sick_tom]

[richeyks]

well said... and the work of the setters is greatly appreciated.
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- "It's all mind over matter until your mind meets the matter"
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[eat rocks]

Well, the little boulder is bleak and the wall is crowded. Blank canvas or not, the big boulder holds a huge percentage of the routes that are the most fun to work on. I'm not looking to submit any send to anyone; not looking for credit or props on the new sickness put up in the gym. When I say I'm going to the gym, people remark, "oh, i thought you meant a REAL gym". But that's just it - the VBRG is my real gym. I go there to session and try not to fall off the jug hauls, but what can i say - i need practice.
Stripping the boulder is definitely a necessary evil, no arguments here - i get it. The setters - both resident and visiting - do an absolutely tremendous job hooking up the boulder EVERY time there are new routes, big ups. People might complain no matter what, but when they do - the regulars are always there for a sense of 'community'. Doesn't it help to have your friends around when situations come up? Isn't that part of the reason we dig the VBRG? The people there make up the part of the gym that doesn't have holds and we love 'em. But when you come in for a session and there's no warning, no heads' up - just a stripped boulder, any attempt at 'place' is negated, and the ultimate trump is thrown. "I know we're friends, but shut up and deal with it" is really what you want to say? Dude, strip the boulder all you want, but help a brother out and give a warning, ey? Just looking for a little help, here. Not here to bash or trash, just trying to climb.

[mariner007]

Any idea when are the artists looking to complete the routes by?

[The Dominican]

I apologize for the delay in resetting the boulder, but good routes take time....and I would rather take my time and set quality problems than end up on this forum eventually defending myself from you guys complaining about how too difficult the routes are ot whatever. So, I CHOOSE to take my time. Now, that does not mean that the boulder will down for month. Usually if the boulder is temporarily out of commison, then its usually around weeks time (that ususally depends on how reliable my unreliable setting crew is).
as far as having no warning as to when the boulder is stripped which seems to be issue... Given that 80 percent of the main wall surface contain routes not older than a month , the old boulder has 10 new problems,there are still a plethura of problems that still remain relatively untouched SINCE ABS, and my boss just posted the perfect response to anyone wanting to understand the process of setting as we have done before in different topics posted in the past?! I have decided that i will implement a new rock gym policy.

1.) all problems will be posted with a born on and expiration date (kinda like shitty beer.)that way, you'll have to hustle and work a little harder for those sends and spray...and when its time for those problems to down you'll know all about it. (this will not apply to the fairies who choose make their own routes by using existing holds because they refuse to sack up and claim the problems are either unchallenging or TOO challenging.)

2.) a new email system voicing any corrective maintenance or stripping sessions to regular patrons will be implemented to better ensure your that mental stability remains intact when enter the gym to see a holdless boulder.
3.) A money bucket will placed at the front desk in the name of the "please help dave by get a clue and get him to do what he does best in a timely manner"so that boulder can be fully clothed with holds in within days instead of weeks.

4.) When the boulder is reset...if you find that the problem is reachy or just too hard for YOU. Notify a setter...and we will remove the disgrace from boulder and your viewing pleasure as fast as humanly possible and consult with you on exactly how big jug haul we replace it with should be.

Anytime you strip a hold/s in the gym it will always create havoc or disapointment to some degree. Whether you got a warning or not... either way you still would've been disapointed. I do apologize for fucking up your sesh though.



P.S. i'm not doing any of that sh_t above mentioned...and if you ask me about it , I will pop you in your grill. Love ya' no sh_t.

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[sick_tom]

I don't think options 2 through 4 will work.
The problem with number 2 is that I would be way too tempted too spam the email accounts of those who sign up for email notification. What an easy way to make a few extra bucks...sell email addresses.
The problem with number 3 is that the money bucket would most surely be used for the candy machine not for the "save a dave" foundation.
Number 4 had promise until I realized that when you take down the offensive problem, someone else will complain that you stripped it.
Number 1 is good for many reasons. First, you know when the problem is coming down. Second, a formula could be written which will increase the grade the older the problem becomes. This way, as the holds get dirtier and slicker, the rating gets harder. Oh, wait...I guess we would have to grade the problems then. Damn, scratch number 1, also.
So I guess the only option would be for Eat Rocks to design us a poster announcing when the boulder will be undergoing reconstructive surgery.
But seriously, Eat Rocks, are you looking for personal notification or mass notification? What do you suggest? All joking aside, I do realize that it sucks to roll up and find the big boy naked in all his purple glory, but D is right...would it really suck less to find out ahead of time that its getting stripped? It would save you the shock. It would save you the drive from downtown (which is probably worth it with the gas prices ($2.20 out here)). But you would probably drive out anyway to hang out. Anyway, you know we always let you under the ropes to test out the problems before the boulder is finished. Because like you said, you are a regular and a friend and we do appreciate the things you do around the gym. Just in the future come to us as a friend with a suggestion if something bothers you. Don't get all gangsta in a post. That tends to piss people off and ends up being counter productive. If your first post had read like your second, it would have been taken more serious from the start.

[eat rocks]

Yeah, i swear i just didn't know how to react when i saw that poor boulder all nekked. It's just that there is usually a lot more communication before a clean sweep of Ol' Pinky. Just give me a heads' up next time and I'll hook up the perfect poster to announce the next stripping. I'm not sweating anyone for doing or not doing there job. As far as the delay in re-setting... sh_t, man. It's stripped. Relax and create the new sickness as always, with TLC. No hatin' going on here. Now about your new policies... too funny, man.

It really would suck less to know ahead of time - for stoops like me (wait - i might be alone on this one) who actually think about what problems they want to work on before they get to the gym. I told you before...i suck and need practice. No i haven't sent all probs and no i don't blame the holds or setters or weather or gas prices or my ape index for my inabilities to send the fat pinch probs or reachy crimpness...so if the problem that's been up for 4 mos. still hasn't gone, maybe i should just go back to peeling bananas for fun, but i'm hard-headed and keep coming back.

No intention on getting too gangsta, but i needed to vent and the D has been on the DL. Like a leggy ninja, so hard to find these days. Maybe finally taking some time off? Hopefully resting. As for taking me seriously, there's no way that sh_t's ever going to happen so f*(kit! It was good clearing the air - and good hearing from the West Coast Pimp himself. I've officially cleared the chamber on my nine and all's well again.

[Berq]

[quote="eat rocks"] It's just that there is usually a lot more communication before a clean sweep of Ol' Pinky.

It's Purple
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[eat rocks]

Berq, how about you concentrate on something else like, oh i don't know... how about these mixes i keep hearing about? I hear you've really got talent, it just needs some development. Do you REALLY want to spend your valuable time discussing the color wheel with me?

[Daj]

looking forward to the new routes.. keep up the good work

[eat rocks]

:shock: the boulder is F**ING fun. Tough routes, interesting moves. Very fun. Gotta get some on video for ol' sick tom.